Period 4 Discussion Area
The discussions for Round 1 are closed, but you should post to the same discussion area for the new round of discussions . . . . . . And now, ROUND 2 . . . .
As with the last round of discussion, please adhere to the following guidelines:
FIRST, look over the various topics.
- Pick a topic from the options below (A, B, C, D, E, or F).
SECOND, when you are ready to post:
- Tell us which topic you are addressing.
- Post your response. Proofread your post before you click submit.
- Come back for discussion with others.
ADDITIONALLY? IF you want extra credit:
- Post a response to a classmates post, and/or
- Post a response to another discussion topic, and/or
- Post in the study hall for anything you need or want to help with
TOPIC A – “Stand for something, or you’ll fall for anything.” – Anonymous. Creighton learns about many virtues, some of which are honor, loyalty, honesty, humility. This topic deals with honor and loyalty. In chapter 16, the narrator tells us:
“But now Creighton understood for the first time the truth of the matter: If loyalty really was the most worthy of virtues, then loyalty that was misplaced or misguided must be the most worthless.”
- What did Creighton’s father stand for? How can you take the lesson of what Creighton’s father died for and use it to grow?
- What is meant by Creighton’s realization about loyalty? How can you personally use the knowledge Creighton has gained?
- Do you stand for something that you (probably) shouldn’t? Do you stand for anything? How do poeple see what you stand for in your actions?
There are a lot of questions in this thread. Pick one to answer. No matter which one you pick, try to talk about yourself as much as possible.
TOPIC B – What is courage? Throughout the first three sections of the book, Creighton struggles to come to terms with the circumstances surrounding his father’s death. After the ransacking and burning of the print shop, General Arnold speaks to Creighton about courage:
“It’s a far more difficult thing to make up your own mind about what’s right and to act accordingly – to go against the demands of duty when it’s necessary, to take another path when you feel the one you’ve been led down is wrong. That requires real courage.”
Read one or more of the following articles: then post on the topic they present:
- FBI E-Mail Refers to Presidential Order Authorizing Inhumane Interrogation Techniques from the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) website.
- TORTURE AT ABU GHRAIB as presented by The New Yorker Magazine online.
- ‘They said this is America . . . if a soldier orders you to take off your clothes, you must obey.’ as presented by Gaurdian Unlimited online.
- The Guilt-Free Soldier: New Science Raises the Specter of a World Without Regret presented by The Village Voice online.
THEN post your thoughts on the topic as presented by the author. Do you agree with the author? Why or Why not?
TOPIC C – A free press. Enemies of the Patriots’ cause felt the need to destroy the place where The Liberty Tree newspaper was printed. In your response for discussion, please address the following questions:
- What do you think this says about the power of the press?
- Can you think of a recent example in which a newspaper became a powerful tool in waging war or impacting world politics?
TOPIC D – He’s a puzzle, a riddle, an enigma! A major character in this novel is Benedict Arnold – who could possibly be one of the most interesting individuals in American History. In real life he was a hero to the Patriots, and was later hated by those same soliders. Read a little about the life of Benedict Arnold at one of the websites below.Use the following links to find information on this hot topic:
- Who Served Here? offered on the U.S. History.Org page on Historic Valley Forge
- The Enigma of Benedict Arnold an archive file of EarlyAmerica.com
- General Benedict Arnold from the National Park Service archives
Then return here to post some comments in response to the following questions:
- What did Benedict Arnold stand for to the Americans?
- What did Benedict Arnold stand for to the British?
TOPIC E – Right is right. Creighton makes a tough decision when he helps break his uncle out of jail. Try to put yourself in Creighton’s shoes.
- Would you have made the same choice?
- What other options did Creighton have, and what did he risk in making those decisions?
TOPIC F – A Duel! A duel becomes a major event in this portion of the novel. One of the most famous duels in American history tragically takes the life of Alexander Hamilton.Read more about the famous Burr-Hamilton duel that took place in 1804 at one of the links below.In your comment for this post, explain why you think that Burr actually shot and killed Hamilton.
- Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr’s Duel at PBS.org
- Aaron Burr Kills Alexander Hamilton in a Duel offered by the National Park Service
- Duel at Dawn at theEyewitness to History website
NOW, go to the discussion areas, and discuss. Remember to be open-minded, honest, kind, and gentle in how you discuss with each other.
- Study Hall – Help others in their academic and/or creative pursuits.
- Period 2 Discussion Area
- Period 3 Discussion Area
- Period 4 Discussion Area
- Period 5 Discussion Area
- Period 6 Discussion Area
Tell us.For Regular Credit you must:
- Which discussion topic are you dealing with: 1, 2, 3, or 4?
- What do you have to say about that?
For EXTRA CREDIT you can:
- Answer extra topic question(s)
- Get into a discussion with other student(s)
#1The setting for this portion of the novel is the city of New Orleans. Since the devastation of Hurricane Katrina, there has been much discussion on the future of this important American city.How do you feel about rebuilding the city of New Orleans? Do you think that the federal government should spend billions of dollars to rebuild the city of New Orleans and protect it from future hurricanes, or should the citizens of New Orleans be asked to pick up and move somewhere else and the city not be rebuilt, or can you think of some other idea?
#2Sophie and Creighton are given a great deal of responsibility in Ben Franklin’s print shop as teenagers. In colonial America many teenagers around the age of 14 or 15 are doing work and taking responsibility for things that today are often associated with adults.Do you think that in American society today we wait too long to treat teenagers as adults? What would be some pros and cons of allowing teenagers in America to have the full rights and responsibilities of adults at the age of 15?
#3The code used by Ben Franklin was possible because it used a book that almost everyone in the colonies was able to access.If you were to write a similar code today, which book would you choose (remember that it should be a book almost everyone has access to or could access). Would you use a certain book if you were only trying to include a certain group of people? In your comment please list the book you would use and why you chose that book.
#4In this portion of the book you have been introduced to Ben Franklin. Ben Franklin was truly one of the most important men in colonial America. The amount of inventions and ideas directly associated with this man is incredible.Here’s what I want you to do:
Step #1 – Check out more about Ben Franklin using the links below.
Step #2 – Pick one of his ideas/inventions that directly impacted you somehow. Tell us the idea you are focused on – describe it briefly – then explain how your life has been directly impacted by it.
Here are the links:
- Ben Franklin – Inventor from the The Franklin Institute
- Franklin Firsts from ThinkQuest
- The Inventions and Scientific Achievements of Benjamin Franklin from About.com
- Ben Franklin – Inventor from the United States Government Printing Office
I agree with Kimberly’s response because she is absolutely correct when she says the Creighton is showing maturity by saving his uncle from jail.Anyone who tries to save their uncle would be mature, but still not the smartest idea though, Hello!!!!!! Creighton could have been put into jail as well as his uncle, but still it was extremly amazing that he would take such a risk.
Topic E question 1
If I was in Creighton’s shoes and I had to decide whether to free my uncle or not, I would not free him. In reality, the actual chances of freeing an uncle from jail and actually making it out of the jail house are really slim. There could always be the chance that once my uncle is free, he could be discovered and put back into jail an hour later, thus meaning I would have wasted numerous hours of my time for nothing, when I could have been shopping with my friends or spending quality time with the family who wouldn’t be in jail.Also, if my uncle was a malevolent jerk I wouldn’t even think twice to go save him,but due to my very large concious I would probably end up pondering about my choice and wondering,”What if I saved him?”
Topic E is the topic I have picked. Creighton makes a tough decision when he breaks his incle out of jail and if i was in his shoes, then yes i would have done the same. This is because even though Creightons uncle is a person who seems selfish and rude, he is still family. Like an old saying “two wrongs doesnt make a right.” So if Creighton didn’t help his uncle it would have served nothing. He might feel good but eventually in his future he would have realized that he should have broke him out of jail. God knows how long he would have had that guilt over his shoulder but probably for like ever.
topice E is the topic I have picked. Creighton makes a tough decision when he breaks his incle out of jail and if i was in his shoes, then yes i would have done the same. This is because even thought Creightons uncle is a person who seems selfish and rude, he is still family. Like an old saying “two wrongs doesnt make a right.” So if Creighton didn’t help his uncle it would have served nothing. He might feel good but eventually in his futur he would have realized that he should have broke him out of jail.
It confused me at first that we were posting new discussions in the same area. ( pause for laughter haha. ) If I was Creighton and put in the position to break my uncle out of jail I would most likely do it no matter what. I would do it because family is important and they are the ones that are always supposed to be there for you. They are your own blood and you should be willing to make sacrifices for them like they would hopefully do for you. It just would naturaly feel like the right thing to do. The other options Creighton had were to forget about his uncle and leave him hanging or he could of paid someone to break his uncle out of jail for him. The risk he would be taking if he left his uncle in jail would be that he would feel extremely guilty. Lets say he did leave his uncle in jail then he would have NEVER found out that his dad was still alive. So it worked out. The other risk he would be taking is if he hired someone to do his dirty work would be possibly the plan not working. Just think about it don’t you ever ask someone to do something for you and then you say forget because you think you can do a better job yourself ? It would most likely be the same for Creighton.
Topic E Question 1:
I think that Creighton made a great choice, about freeing his uncle. That ishis family.Family comes first.
topic 3- right is right
If i was Creighton i would not have helped my uncle escape. I say this not based on the facts that it might help the patriots to win or that it might cause the british to lose, i base it on the fact that personally his uncle treated him poorly and showed no respect for him. Also,
Creighton made great friends with Sophie and Dr.Franklin, he enjoys being with them and working with them. they trust him and he finally felt at home. Another choice Creighton could have made is to stay with Dr.Franklin and continue printing in the press. He risked blowing his cover with Dr. Franklin and the patriots by helping his uncle, and in return he was lef tbehind. i do understand why Creighton did what he did, he was raised on the moral of being faithful to your country, he would be a traitor to help the patriots.
Topic A: Question 3
Actually, there are a couple of things that I do stand up for when sometimes I shouldn’t, like my brother for example. Although he may not be the best or smartest person ever, I still do stand up for him because I know that he does really stupid things. Yet somehow, although he doesn’t show it, I know he’s sorry. And, he is older so he should know better, but I do stand up for him to only a certain limit. Sometimes he does things so stupid, I don’t even know what to say. Also, another thing that I majorly stand up for is global warming. I am constantly reminding people how it’s happening and why it’s happening, and those who argue or don’t belive me, I tend to tell them everything I had just told them over again, to see if the second time they’ll understand. So, I guess that my actions really do show what I stand up for because, with my brother, I look offended-ish when people accuse him of wrong doing, and aeformentioned, I talk a lot about global warming.
Topic E Question 1:
If was Creighton I would not have freed my uncle. Creighton’s uncle teated him poorly. I understand why he did it though. Thats his uncle and he is family and all, but he didn’t really know his uncle either. That shows that Creighton cares about his family and is slowly maturing and overcoming difficulties throughout the story.
this statement is very strong because it gives a very versitile meaning. Basicaly it takes courage to do what your told no mtter what but even more courage to denie what your told to do what you thought was right at the time.
This statement is for everyone, in movie they say go on with out me but half the time they end up saving the person anyways.
I agree with Kathryn because when the main character has a new realizationthat is the turning point of the story. The character becomes more mature and understands more than before.
Topic E Question #1
If I was Creighton I would have not freed my uncle. First, what type of uncle would strike you in the head for asking to leave with him. To me it makes no sense at all, but i can see why he did it. I mean, that’s your own uncle and it’s family, but they cross the line when they hit you in the head for no reason.
Topic E: right is right
If I was in Creighton’s shoes I would save my uncle. Even if he is a total dirtbag he’s family so in a way I would save him but then I would have to think afterwards why I even did.LOL. Everything happens for a reason, so I think thats the only reason that Creighton would save his uncle.His other options would have been to give his uncle false info or even just leave him there in the jail. Not like he didn’t desever it but still the risk would have been that Creighton would have lost a really good friend Mr. Hale all in the attempts of showing his uncle what he desevers. It could also get him in trouble for the fact that if they found out that that was his nephew i think they might have put him in jail to because they would think that he would be a spy even though thats what he was, so yeah. But thats what i have to say about that. Over all I think that Creighton made a right chocie. ^_^
Topic A Question 2
Creighton’s realization about loyalty is meant to be a turning point in the book. When the main character learns something that may be completely different than who they were at the begining of the story, to show how they’ve changed and matured. I can personally use the knowledge Creighton has gain by thinking about all different points of views to a situation. When I’m not in the position of the “traitor” it’s not hard to just view this person as backstabbing, dishonest, and a shame to their name. But if I actually think about why that person made that decision, I could end up learning something or maybe even find myself making the same “traitorous” decision. =]
I agree with Pedro’s quote for two reasons one I am a believer of God and Jesus Christ and two I believe it’s a great thing to stand for.For example whenever something happens to me I always say how would Jesus handle this situation and I’ll try my best to stay calm and let God take care of the situation.
I don’t stand up for something i shoulden’t but I do have something that I stand for,and that would be fairness and equality towards everyone.People acknowledge that I stand for fairness and equality because when I believe someone has been treated unfairly I’ll confront the person who is being unjust and I ‘ll try to set them straight.
When I see someone being treated unfairly I always see it as myself being treated wrongfully or my family members or my friends.Which is why I stand for equality and fairness towards all.
Topic A Question 3:
No I do not stand for something I shouldn’t but I do stand for something. I stand for Our Lord and that he is our father and that I love him. People see that I stand for Jesus because when a lot of people do something wrong or need help I always say that god is with them and that he is always going to help us through our problems. When people talk to me they see that I’m very religious and that I have god near me. That is what I stand for and that is how people can notice I stand for it.
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I think the federal government should be rebuilt because it would bbe wrong to uproot so many people from ther home town. How would you like it if a hurricane hit your house and your insurence company just said “Oh we cand afford that right now so you have to move to another place.” Also there is so much american history in that city. That is like tearing down Washington D.C. and saying we are not going to rebuild it.
i agree with brianna n. society does a very good job of catigorizing teens and adults. especially when shes states some kids would be doing things they cant handle at 15
discussion question #1
I believe the New Orleans should not be rebuilt. It is very unfortunate that all the resident are going to have to leave, but in reality it is a very bad idea. First off, it is going to cost billions of dollars and our country is already fighting a war. Second, New Orleans is already very many feet below sea level and the chances are it will flood again. Who’s to say another hurricane wont hit in the process of reconstruction?. Also, its going to take years to rebuild and by the time it is done all the original residents will have already settled down somewhere else and have started over. Many of them have already started over somewhere else.
I think that the government should rebuild nEW Orleans, because if they can spend thousands of dollars on war why can’t they re4build New Orleans? Not everybody has the money to just pick up their things and move.
I don’t think think that in American society today we wait too long to treat teenagers as adults. In your teenage years, most people don’t think straight and do unintelligent things. Thats why its very important to set teenagers on rules and don’t expect as much from them as adults. Just like in the book Creighton had forgotten to fasten the metal clamps, causing the rows of type to collapse on the floor. Which is showing that teenagers sill make mistake and they shouldn’t be held to many responsibility. Also many teenagers get very mad easily which would also cause problems if they work in any job with other people.
A pro would be that teenagers would learn lessons for themselves and be able to make money on their own, with any help form there parents.
I belive that we, the American Society actually do wait too long to give teenagers the rights and responsibilities because many teenagers are mature enough to handle it and wanted to be treated as adults. Some teenagers are very responsible and can handle being treated as an adult. Some of the pros of giving teenagers the rights and responsibilities of an adult is that it makes them more mature, responsile, teaches them about the hardships of life, and tells them that life isnt easy abd what might be ahead of them in the future. Yet, at the sane time there are some cons/negatives for this kind of situation which are that teens might not be able to deal with so much pressure, they might be shocked when they have something like this thrown at their face all of a sudden, its possible that they feel they have lost their childhood, also teens might feel criticized that they aren’t as good and feel that its too much for them to handle.
I think the federal government should rebuild New Orleans because Hurricane Katrina was a natural distaster the people did not cause it and did not wish for it to happen. That hurricane left New Orleans a catastrophe, people evacuated, most people left with noplace to go and most of them had to evacuate to a whole other state and for some of them that have been living there for their whole lives couldn’t imagine living someplace else. Imagine yourself having to adjust to the big change that these people had to face. The government should pay for the rebuilding of this state because if any other major city unlike New Orleans went down in a hurricane or tornado or any other natural disaster they would rebuild it so they can do it now to this one.
I am answering question 3.
If I were to choose a certain specific book that every household possesses somewhere throughout the house for my super awesome secret code, it would have to be a phone book. Every house has one and it is very easily accessible. There are many pages to choose from and practically has every word in the english language, whether from peoples’ names or common ads found plentiful in there. It is very big so the word you are looking for has a better chance to be in there.
I totally agree with Hayley R. because the dictonary is very accessible. Many people look at the dictionary every day for different words. The dictionary would be a perfect book for a new code
discussion question 3.
If i were to use a book similiar to Ben Franklen for a code it would be Dr.Suess. I would use this book because this book is easily accesable, most common book that came to me, and is all over the world in people’s homes.
I agree with brianna because it’s true . If they leave all those people to go somewhere then they will have to rush to find a place to stay and the country will get more overcrowded. Also it’s true that if Washington D.C. got destroyed they would definitley go and rebuild it fast, so why can’t they just rebuild it then.
i know this is kind of cruel but rebuilding New Orleans is really a waist of time money and gives people hope for it to come crashing down in a flood like before.If there was such a fatal problem why build a city in a flood zone. This is similar to building a house near a volcano that erupts annualy. Hurricane season strikes around specific places about every year. a positive solution would be to put more money into building and securing the cause of the problem then consider rebuilding. Whats a little creepy is that I visited New Orleans a couple weeks before the insident and I’m kind of glad I left early on my way to Mexico.
If I were to right a similar code to Ben Franklin’s I would use the dictionary. Alomost every body in the world has a dictionary. Also if they do not posess a dictionary they may have a library located near them to access one. That would be the book I would use if I were to make a similar code.
I chose franklin’s invention of the “Franklin Stove”. It was an iron stove used to warm houses during the winters of the Revolutionary War, like a heater. This invention has helped me during cold nights, but has also saved lives in colder parts of the world. Without the inspiration of Franklin Stove, many people would die because of the intence cold that can arise in northern parts of the world. It is also a very comforting devise for cold weather.
I agree with Brianna T because they should rebuild new orleans because that would be wrong to just leave the city like that and also it would be wrong to just tell the people of new orleans to just leave because thats were they originaly lived .
Response to #2
In my opinion, in the American Society, I don’t think that we wait to long to treat teenagers as adults because, today’s teenagers aren’t raised to be as mature as back in the 90’s. With today’s new technology like television, internet, game systems, cell phones, etc. teenagers aren’t as mentally prepared to take on the responsibilites of an adult.
I think that the federal government should spend billions of dollars on New Orleans. Because it was part of how we became The United States and it shouldn’t be just thrown away like it was never here. Also those people have lived there their whole life and they shouldn’t just leave. If they don’t want to repair it then they should have never built it there in the first place.So I think that they should rebuild it.
The Discussion Topic I am dealing with is numero dos.
I think teenagers around the age of 14 and 15 aren’t mature enough to handle the full rights and responsibilities of adults. Most of them weren’t raised to handle that responsibility because our society does not mandate it. If they started treating 14 and 15 year olds like adults i believe some would take advantage of the opportunity or be frightenened and not sure of what to do. Therefore, some might drop out of school and just have a job to get a little money for food and some necessities. They shouldn’t be given the option to not attend school;education is vital and gets you far.
Topic # 1
I think the federal government should spend the money to rebuild New Orleans and protect it from future hurricanes. In my opinion, it is unreasonable to ask the people of New Orleans to just pack up and leave. These people have just lost most of what they have. They shouldn’t just be asked to leave and start a whole new life in some unfamiliar territory. That’s foolishness… If the government spends the money to rebuild the city and make it stronger in the process, there is a high probability that the city won’t be destroyed again. I think using the money is worth it all.
I agree with Liana C. because teenagers are not excepted to work because they are too young. Adults just don’t know how responsible we teenagers are. Most teenagers that have money pay for there own necessities.
If I was to wrie a similar code to Dr. Franklin’s today, I would choose the “Green Eggs and Ham” book by Doctor Seuss. I would choose this book because it is a very popular book that is accessible to everyone everywhere. If it were to only include a certain group of people, I wouldn’t want to change the book because I’m too lazy to think of another popular book.
Topic # 2
The american society does wait to long to treat teenagers like adults.
Some pros about treating teenagers as adults would be, it would teach us to be more responsible so that we wouldnt depend on our parents.
Some of the cons would be, some teenagers acting older than they are & doing things they cant handle at the age of 15.
In my opinion I think that in todays society we wait too long to treat teenagers as adults. For example i have a neighbor who buys his own clothes. Also he has a job to do so. Most adults have a job and make their own money and buy their own items. If a teenager can also do so he should be categorized as an adult. Further more I think that Society waits too long to treat tenagers as adults.
I think the United States should make an effort to rebuild he city of New Orleans. It is not fair for the millions of people that lived there to be told to just pick up their stuff and move. I know that if I lived in New Orleans, I would be very upset if i was asked to leave and I would do try my hardest to convince people that they should rebuild it. And I agree with Brianna T’s response. If it were to happen to Washington D.C. they wouldn’t have to think twice to rebuild it. Also, it would be smart to make it resistant to future hurricanes. Since New Orleans is a bull’s eye for hurricanes, it should be he most protected along with Florida and the other neighhtboring states.
Topic # 1
I beleive that in the case of New Orleans being rebuilt, that it should be. It was a home to many, and although it was a natural disaster and not one in the fault of the government, that the pepole who once lived there should have the opportunity to coontinue dwelling there. I think that the federal government should spend as much as it takes to rebuild the city. Asking people who once lived there maybe since they were born, and have had so many memories there, should not be asked to just pick up their stuff and move out. Also the wall that was supposedly protecting the city of New Orleans from damage of huricanes was a failure, and the city didn’t even have a chance, so New Orleans should be given another chance. There shall be a better and more protective wall built to ensure the safety of New Orleans and the people who lived there.
I’m impressed with the honest discussion going on in here.
To say that to rebuild New Orleans -in all senses of the phrase- would cost millions is unrealistic. Think in terms of billions.
Check out these google results to get an idea of the cost to rebuild after disasters perpetrated by man and caused by nature.
Also, take a look at this NPR story – An American History of Disaster and Response – at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4839530
I agree with Liana C. teenagers are already paying for their own necessitys for example I have a friend who pays for her own snacks,does her own laundry and pays half of her family light bill.So that further proves that teens can provide for themselves.
I think that we,the America society wait too long to give teenagers full rights and responsibilities.I feel this way because in some cases fourteen and fifteen year olds are more responsible and can fend for themselves better than most thirty year olds.The pros of giving teenagers full rights and responsibilities would be a younger more energetic woking class a con would be the immaturity of a young teenager for example tardies.
I think the federal government should rebuild the city of New Orleans. They can’t just leave a deserted city. Our populations will grow and become over crowded;if we have a city we mind as well use it to populate people.
If there was a major disaster in Washington D.C the president would make it a priority to rebuild the city. Why couldn’t he and all the people just pick up and move somewhere else?!
The Discussion Topic I am dealing with is number 3.
If I were to choose a certain book for a code similar to Ben Franklin’s I would use the Dictionary. I would use the Dictionary because it is the most common book that i can think of and it is a book that is easily accessed. Almost every household in America has a Dictionary so it would be common sense to use that book for my secret code. If I had to use a certain brand of Dictionary it would be Websters and it would be the most common brand of it. You could argue that there are so many different types of Webstars Dictionary but that is the same case with every book. Almost every book on the market has been remade for things like large print, pocket size book, or even remade for a movie. So all we would have to do is specify what addition of the book would be used. It is that simple.
I believe that we, the American Society wait neither too long or too early to treat teenagers as adults, but now in society children or teenagers are beginning to start working at earlier ages. Some teens still wait till they are 18 or older to get a job or pay for their own things, but some of the people I know have to pay for their own necessities like shampoo, conditioners, and razors. Me, I am applyiing for a job as a camp counselor, but it turns out that I am too young. So, sometimes it’s not the teenagers fault that they can’t have a job, it’s the buisness that are looking for applicants with more years. Just because they are older does not mean that they are more experienced. A couple of pros in the situation are that they would be more ready and well prepared for the hardship ahead, and they would be better at dealing with rejections, which I am pretty sure there will be a lot of when they grow up. Some negatives of having teenagers with the full responsibility and rights at the age of 15 are that they may be traumatized by their lack of childhood when they grow up. Also, they might break under the pressure of having all the responsibilities at such a young age. When a child turns 15 you can’t just throw everythiing at them and expect them to pick it up like they are an expert. You have to give them tiime and be patient while they slowly learn what is ahead for them.