The Hound of the Baskervilles Period 5 – DQ #2
PERIOD 5
You will be graded for “discussing”:
- Answer the Discussion Question completely (50%).
- Use the question in the answer.
- Give your answer.
- Support your answer with details from the book.
- Respond to at least one classmate’s answer (50%).
- A response to a classmate must be substantial.
- Substantial means having something to add to another’s comment:
- agreement with explanation,
- disagreement with explanation,
- add something completely new.
Here’s DISCUSSION QUESTION #2:
Discuss the nature of Sherlock Holmes’ friendship with Dr. Watson. How highly does Holmes value Watson’s opinion? Why is Watson important to Holmes? Why is Holmes important to Watson? Supporting your answer with details from the text.
Watson is important to Homes beacause Holmes builds or improves on Watson opinion. Like in the beginning of th the book Watson gave Holmes his opinion on whos stick it is the holmes advanced on that. Also sunce i have a little brother when he does somthing wrong i teach more on what he did wrong so he dosent do it again or so he knows what he did.Holmes is important to Watson beacuse watson learns from holmes back to the beginning of the book holmes pointed out certain traits found on the walking stick that watson did not notice.
he realationship with Holmes and Watson is very good there the best of friends also.To my opininion watson and holmes have been friends longer than the let the readers know.
I agree whith Anthony and myself because having a little brother I know that my brother is sometimes wrong but whithout that I couldn’t come up whith the stuff that I do.
My personal opinion is that Holmes and Watson have a brother like relationship. were Watson can say somthing and Holmes can correct him. And as you can read below they have a big brother little brother vibe. example : “I am afraid, my dear Watson that most of your conclusions were erroneous. when I said that you stimilated me I meant, to be frank, that in noting your fallcies I was ocasionaly guided towards the truth.” Here you see that your little brother is wrong but whithout his answer you coudn’t have found the right answer.
Well Sir Holmes and Sir watson have very good relationship together. I remember taking notes in class about the two. How Watson visits Holmes everyday to his home and everything he (Holmes) does Watson observes, which shows that he really knows Holmes very well. For example, in the book, in the first chapter, the very first sentence, it says “Mr. Sherlock Holmes, who was usually very late in the mornings, save upon those not infrequent occasions when he was up all night,…” That to me shows that Watson knows holmes well. How well does Holmes value Watson’s opinions? Well in Chapter one Watson gave his opininon on the walking stick, Holmes agreed with his opinion but he well formed it into his own hypothesis about the walking stick. This is what he(sherlock) told Watson about him and his intellengent remark about the stick… “It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of light.” Holmes is really is fond of Watson’s answers which would help him in his research to find the answer to mysteries. Holmes is important Watson because everytime Holmes corrects Watson on his opininon on clues in cases/mysteries, he could learn each time he is corrected by Holmes and probably one day he could follow in Holmes’ footsteps to become a great detective like Holmes himself.
I agree with Chelsea 50/50. This is why I agree with her answer. Well at times Holmes makes the decision to do things for Watson. That is kind of not fair to Watson because he’s well a grown man and he can make his own decision by himself. Then again I disagree with her answer as well. The reason why I disagree is because sometimes Holmes makes the decision for Watson except for Watson himself, that’s no fair you might think, but then again Holmes is more experienced than Watson, which comes up to the final answer that Holmes is more wise and experienced in solving cases/mysteries. Sometimes there are twists and turns in cases that you cannot solve and you would have to bend your mind around them, which can be very hard, and Holmes has the experience to unbend them and sail right through that maze of tricks.
I agree with with jasmine because she gets all of her information from the text and supports her answer with alot of details.
I think holmes and docter watson have a very close friendship. Both of them know eachother very well. THey are not the niceest to eachother but nothing gets in the way of their frienship.
I think that Holmes and Dr. Watson have a very close friendship and they enjoy each other’s company. When Holme’s said “If my friend would undertake it there is no man who is better worth having at your side when you are in a tight place. No one can say so more confidently than I”, and “No, Sir Henry, you must take with you someone, a trusty man, who will be always by your side.” You can tell that they are very close friends and that Watson is very important to Holmes because he will always be by his side, he can trust him, and he needs him. I agree with Natasha that without Watson, Holmes’ wouldn’t be the great detective that he is because Holme’s values Watson’s opinions highly since he needs to hear what someone else’s opinions are about a situation are to help him solve it. “It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of light. Some people without possessing genius have a remarkable power of stimulating it.” This basically means that Watson isn’t that smart but he can bring it out of other people so Holmes needs him so he can figure things out that he wouldn’t be able to do himself. They are important to each other because Holmes is Watson’s companion and Holmes needs Watson in order to solve mysteries and they always do things together. I also agree with Julia, Jonathan, and Breanna because they are like brothers, but Holmes never gives any credit to Watson.
I think that Sherlock’s Holmes and Dr.Watson have a very strong relationship. Holmes knows everything about Dr.Watson, and Dr.Watson knows everything about Holmes. Although, sometimes Holmes does not treat Dr.Watson with all the respect he deserves. For example, when Holmes just volunteered Dr.Watson to go with Sir Henry. Holmes highly values Watson’s opinions because sometimes Watson’s gives him clues or hints to a mystery. Watson also “gives of light bulbs” for Holmes. Holmes is important to Watson because Watson is the kind of person that needs somebody. He can not figure out things just by his lone self.
I would have to also agree with Jonathan and Julia. Watson and Holmes are like brothers. However, when Watson helps Holmes figure out clues, but he never tells anyone or gives him credit for the clues.
from my comment above that is why i agree with Jonathan M
thanks BYe 🙂
I AGREE WITH JONATHAN M.
i agree with him because holmes and watson are similar they are like brothers in some ways to me at least. sometimes they dont give one another great thanks and ect…
they do commend each others at times and holmes does greatly accept watsons opinion.
bye, bye!! 🙂 :p
Watson credit on helping him understand certain clues or problems he still gives him compliments. Thus helping Holmes go furhter into the case and coming closer to figure it out.
I agree with Julia K. Holmes and Watson are almost like brothers. Although they may not seem like it both hugly regard each other in a certain manner like borhters. Holmes may not give Watson credit on helping him understand certain clues or problems he still gives him compliments. Thus helping Holmes go furhter into the case and coming closer to figure it out.
I think that Waston is important to Holmes. Watson can see what Holmes can’t and that helps Holmes solve crimes. I say this because Holmes told Watson “It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of light”. Holmes is improtant to Watson because he looks into Holmes’s theories.
I agree with Christian W because Watson sees the things Holmes can’t and adds them together to solve the mystery.
I agree and disagree with you Dana. I agree because sometimes in the book, Holmes doesn’t really value Dr.Watson’s opinoins and thoughts; but I disagree with your statement beacuse I don’t know anyone that would like someone to boss them around and tell them what to do and when. So I’m not sure why you think that Holmes is important to Watson if all he does is give orders…
Holmes values Watson’s opinions because he basically needs a sidekick, to help him with his mysteries & to help solve them. Holmes & Watson are friends, almost brothers & thats importanat to have when you need help.
Watson is important to Holmes because he helps Holmes with his mysteries, and to make it seem real and believable. Although, Holmes doesn’t give too much credit to his friend because it is Watson that is the smart one of the two, “It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of light;” This quote describes how Holmes needs Watson’s brains to help him with being a detective. Even though Holmes is smart, he still needs Watson’s theories to help him with his work. On the other hand, Watson needs Holmes to accompany him. Holmes is a good friend to Watson and therefore, they both need to each other’s help & ideas to guide them through life.
I agree with Michal p on how the friendship between Holmes and Watson are like brothers because it is in the story that they help each other out and that is what friends and brothers do.
Dana B has stated that Holmes doesn’t value Watson’s opinions at all. I’m alright with you saying this ,but I am really curious as to why you think so. I really wanted to know why because everyone else said the opposite of your idea.
Holmes values Watsons’ opinion very highly because Watson is a great and helpful person giving another opinion providing an extra point of view. Watson is so important to Holmes because he can put Holmes’ supernatural ideas into a believable thing. Through this he acts as an aid to find the answer to a case. Holmes is equally important to Watson because Holmes makes the ideas seem believeable. This too gives a pretty good answer to any case.
Watson is very important to Holmes. Holmes values Watson’s opinions very highly because Holmes likes to hear what Watson has to say and takes into consideration. In the story Holmes says “Really, Watson, you excel yourself, “I am bound to say that in all the accounts which you have been so good as to give of my own small achievements you have habitually underrated your own abilities.” Waston is important to Holmes because Watson gives his opinion on mysteries and help Holmes a little bit more with what Holmes doesn’t understand in the case. Holmes says ” I confess, my dear fellow, that I am very much in your debt.” Holmes is important to Watson because if Holmes did not exsist he would never would be able to guess what is going on with only lttle pieces of clues.
You know what happens when you sit ont he fence? You get splinters in your rear.
We are not so privileged that we can be wishy-washy. We mus pick a sid eto the argument.
Dana, you can not on one hand tell us that “Holmes doesn’t value Watson’s opioions,” and then a line or two later tell us, “Watson is important to Holms.”
Please tell us how you really feel. And support your answer with proof from the text.
Thanks! :o)
Follow rules of punctuation, spelling, and capitalization.
This is the final warning before it starts cositng you points.
I agree with natasha .Becouse it’s true Holmes would not be such a great detective if Watson and Holmes weren’t working side by side.
I think that Holmes doesn’t value Watson’s opioions at all. Well Watson is important to Holms becouse he listens to him. Holmes is important to Watson becouse he is better at being bossy and rulling.
I highly dissagree with you, Stephanie V. Dr. Watson would, I believe, say no to Holmes if he felt against doing any “Dirty Work”. For just in this past chapter, Dr. Watson says he is “Honored” to go to Baskerville Hall with Sir Henry. He considers Holme’s propostion of sending him to Baskerville Hall a compliment comming from one such as Holmes.
I feel that Dr. Watson and Mr. Holmes share a very close bond. Where ever Mr. Holmes goes, Dr. Watson is there as his sidekick. And never once do I recall Dr. Watson complaining. Without Watson, Sherlock may not be as brilliant, for in the book Sherlock himself states that Watson brings out the genius in him. And it seems that with Holmes and Watson together, you get two ideas of the same problem. Holme’s idea may be closer to the truth, but Watson adds the details the Holmes may have left out.
I think the relationship between Sherlock Holmes and Dr.Watson is not that good because it seems like Sherlock Holmes doesnt really value Dr.Watson.I think he makes him do all the dirty work.
I think that without Watson,Holmes’ wouldn’t be the great Detective that he is.I mean after all,they do solve mysteries TOGETHER,and Watson’s opinion plays a very high role in solving these problems.In the book Holmes said “Some people without Genius,have a power of stimulating it”,which Means that Watson may not be smart,but he knows how to bring out the genius in other people.Also,I think that Holmes is important to Watson because,without Holmes,Watson would probably be alone in the World.And in my mind,Watson is Important to Holmes because Watson helped make Holmes the great detective that he is today.
But I do tend to agree with Jodi-ann when she said that,Holmes doesn’t give Watson enough credit.He may ask for Watson’s opinion on things,but in the end he’s probably going to end up using his own,or taking credit for what Watson said.
I agree with Kemar 100%! They know how to get the job done at work…But they probably dont hang out with each other much. They’re more “Work Buddies” than anything else. I bet they dont speak to eachother when off-duty.
Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson have a strong friendship. You can tell they’ve been partners for a long time. The way they act, and communicate with each other proves this. He values some of Dr. Watsons opinions, but not all of them, Such as the time Holmes volunteered Watson to accompany Henry Baskerville to the Baskerville Hall. Holmes gave Watson no time to object what he said. Both Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson are equally important to each other. Watson needs Holmes’ awesome detective skills. Holmes needs Watsons ideas and thoughts. This quote from chapter 1 proves this, “It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of light.”
I agree with Anthony M because he says holmes values Watson as a sidekick because watson brings up a point and holmes builds on it to solve the case
I think that sherlock holmes values watsons opinion because in the 1st chapter of the book holmes says “It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but
you are a conductor of light. Some people without possessing
genius have a remarkable power of stimulating it. I confess, my
dear fellow, that I am very much in your debt.”
Which means that holmes gives watson credit for having an opinion that helps him help the case to move quicker.
I agree with Chealsea when she stated that Holmes’ and Watson’s friendship is not “fully” respected. I myself fell that Mr. Holmes doesn’t here Watson’s point of view. I feel that even if he did he would end up making the decision on his own!!!!!!
I feel that Mr. Holmes and Dr. Watson, have an overall genuine friendship. They could very well be friends aside from business. In Mr. Moshe’s class notes on Dr. Doyle it stated that Mr. Holmes lives at 221 Baker Street, where he is often visited by Watson,{this is one possible clue}.I feel that Mr. Holmes does value Watson’s friendship, but not at an extremely high level. In the the book Holmes quotes,”You yourself are not luminous, but you are a conductor of light.”If they were close friends, I feel Holmes would have worded it differently. Dr. Watson is however important to Holmes because he can fill in for him in emergency cases. One example might include when he asked Watson to stay at the at the Baskerville hall with Sir Henry Baskerville. Holmes may also be important to Watson, because Watson may value his friendship, and admire his cleverness. He may even want to emulate him.
I don’t agree with Anthony because Holmes doesn’t tell Watson what to do. Watson can make his own decisions. He could have chosen to go with Sir Henry or say he didn’t want to go.
Holmes values Watson’s opinion highly because Holmes needs a second opinion before he makes his own. Like in Chapter 1, he says “It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but
you are a conductor of light. Some people without possessing genius have a power of stimulating it.” In those sentences, he means that Watson says his opinion and by him saying that, Watson stimulates knowledge in Holmes so Holmes can make his opinion.
The reason why Watson is important to Holmes is because Holmes needs a cohort for another person’s point of view of things. Like in Chapter 1 when Holmes says,”I confess, my dear fellow, that I am very much in your debt.” That shows that Holmes needs Watson for information he doesn’t know or see himself. Holmes is thankful.
The reason why Holmes is important to Watson is because Watson helps Holmes by getting ideas to help Holmes. In Chapter 1, Holmes says,”You know my methods. Apply them!” By Holmes saying that, Holmes and Watson must have been good friends.
Watson values Holmes as a superior because Holmes is really the one who does the work like he tells everybody what to do to solve the mysteries
Holmes values Watson as a sidekick because Watson does whatever Holmes tells him to do as Holmes tells Watson to go with Sir Henrey to baskerville Hall
I am agreeing with chelsea on disagreeing with me because Holmes does, sort of, use Watson’s opinion to build on.
I agree with Chelsea T because Holmes barley ever listens to Watson and Watson just agrees with Holmes with what ever he says and I think Chelsea is right that Watson respects Holmes more than Holmes respects Watson
I think the relationship between Holmes and Watson is weird because i think Holmes does not respect Watson. Like when Watson wanted to help Holmes would just but in and just say he is Wrong.
Holmes is important to Watson because Watson looks for answers to questions and all his theories. So Holmes is like a mentor to Watson.
Watson is important to Holmes because I think to Holmes that when ever Watson is wrong he has to correct him and that when Holmes corrects Watson Holmes feels good and thinks he is smarter.
Holmes values Watson as a sidekick who participates when Holmes solve mysteries as Holmes finds the clues and Watson writes them down
Watson values Holmes as a friend and somebody who solves mysteries together
i agree with kemar because their friendship is very business like and they dont really look like friends. More like partners just working together to get the job done.
The friendship between Sherlock Holmes with Dr. watson is not respected!
Holmes doesnt rely value Watsons opinion because he never actualy realy hears Watson out.
Watson is important to Holmes because he values his company and also his theories.
Holmes is important to watson because of holmes is his boss in watsons work
but watson respects holmes more than holmes does Watson!
JODI-ANN:
i dont think that only holmes just thinks of watson as a comanion…
he also is iterested in his theories!!!
holmes needs watson ti complete him-self and how he thinks of him-self!
The friendship between holmes and watson is just busniess to me. This is because they never hang out and just have a good time. If they do hang out it is just for the case. Holmes doesn’t value Watsons opinion all that much. Only when he needs help or to get going does he take the opinion seriously.Holmes needs Watson because he is like the spark plug to his brain.He gets Holmes started on the cases.
The friendship betweeen Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson are like businesss partners. They seem to have a long term of friendship. Most of the time they seem to be together. However, their friendship doesn’t seem as any thing serious. They just happen to work together. I think that they are very loyal and industrious working partners on the job and dependable. They make a great team with their thinking skills and knowledge.
Anthony, allow me to reiterate a portion of the question:
Discuss the nature of Sherlock Holmes’ friendship with Dr. Watson.
—What do I mean by asking you what the “nature” of their friendship is?
How highly does Holmes value Watson’s opinion?
—-Very highly, not highly at all, a bit highly?
And of course, support your answer with details from the text.
You must answer every portion of the question, and your answer must be supported logically by the text.
Thanks ! !
Sherlock Holmes friendship with Dr.Watson is in my opinion a strong brotherly relationship because they help people by solving mysteries.
My personal opinion is that Holmes and Watson have a brother like relationship. were Watson can say somthing and Holmes can correct him. And as you can read below they have a big brother little brother vibe. example : “I am afraid, my dear Watson that most of your conclusions were erroneous. when I said that you stimilated me I meant, to be frank, that in noting your fallcies I was ocasionaly guided towards the truth.”
First, allow me to commend you, Jodi-Ann on being the first to post here. Good work. I’m not sure if you’ve quite covered the entire question, though.
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HEY EVERYONE (Yes, I’m shouting, but not in anger, in Joy :)) . . .
Make note of this entry I wrote to Kryssa C. (Period 2) Please read her posts in the Period 2 DIscussion (4th from the top), and then read my post here. Enjoy!!
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Kryssa, your answers are brilliant and well thought out. I have two suggestions for you:
(1) Use fewer words.
(2) Include your citations within the text of your answers
Take a look below at what I have done with (part of) your answer. Compare your answer with my version.
Here’s my version:
Watson is important to Holmes because Holmes needs a companion such as Watson, and another point of view for certain things. As Holmes remarked, “I confess, my dear fellow, that I am very much in your debt” (C-1, P-13). Holmes expresses two things through this statement: (1) he needs Watson around for things he doesn’t see himself, and (2) he is thankful for every bit of information Watson gives him.
All I did was simplify your exact idea. I have not changed your answer. I only used fewer words.
Great work, Kryssa!! Keep it up!
I think that Holmes’ and Watson’s relationship isn’t that
valued by Holmes because he doesn’t value Watsons
opinion, the only thing Holmes values is Watsons company.I also think that the only reason Watson is really in the book is because he is the narrator and Holmes uses his opinion to build his own.As Holmes said in the book:
“I am afraid, my dear Watson, that most of your conclusions were
erroneous. When I said that you stimulated me I meant, to be
frank, that in noting your fallacies I was occasionally guided
towards the truth.
In other words you are wrong, Watson.
To conclude i really dont think Holmes gives Watson enough credit.